Interesant nu numai articolul de la Jenny Gkiougki, dar si comentariile lui David Malone -autorul blogului Golem XIV. David Malone este realizator de filme documentare si autorul cartii The Debt Generation.
Asa cum subliniaza si David Malone, articolul – protest publicat de Jenny Gkiougki este tributar exprimarii unei vinovatii la nivel de popor, ca si cum populatia este cea care dicteaza razboaiele, politica unei tari, fie ea si financiara.
Extrem de putini oameni disting faptul ca datoriile tarilor, razboaiele nu sunt create de populatii. Este un fir de discutie interesant aici, unde o amica a comentat faptul ca S. Lazaroiu ar trebui sa schimbe exprimarea “se spune ca grecii s-au imprumutat fara limita” atragand atentia ca NU populatia a creat datoriile. Oamenii politici si functionarii Greciei ( la fel si la noi si in alte tari) au creat aceste datorii. Evident, se continua melodia “oamenii au cheltuit mai mult decat au produs” .. bla bla .. si nu mai sunt bani de pensii si salarii.
Acum o zi sau doua “realitatea” a publicat un articol cu date preluate din NewScientist. Practic este vorba despre un studiu facut de cercetatori elvetieni si studiul arata ca economia lumii sta in bratele a aprox 167 de companii. Este ironic ca acest studiu sa vina de la elvetieni; cei care au scris pana acum despre aceste concentrari absolut nenaturale si extrem de periculoase ( cu un efect de saracire accelerata a populatiilor) au fost denumiti conspirationisti.
Din “jocul” ( un fel de FNI global) acestor 167 de companii + puii si acolitii lor se nasc si datoriile tarilor (The Goldman Sachs Group este in top 20). Cea mai mare frica a acestor jucatori este ca populatia sa gaseasca modalitatea prin care sa ceara auditarea datoriilor tarii lor. Este clar pentru oricine ca majoritatea datoriilor pica sub incidenta conceptului de datorie oneroasa. A doua frica este ca oamenii sa se trezeasca si sa se re-configureze, sa reconstruiasca comunitatile si economiile locale aferente. Exista studii care arata o evolutie uluitoare a comunitatilor atunci cand oamenii si-au dat seama cum sunt drenati banii din comunitati si cat de mult pierd din cauza minunatei teorii cu globalizarea.
Articolul – protest publicat de Jenny Gkiougki ofera niste informatii interesante si pot sa ne serveasca drept lectie ( poate ne prindem si noi de ce ai nostri politicieni si guvernanti nu lamuresc situatia banilor pe care Germania ii are de platit Romaniei, mai ales ca sunt bani multi si se pare ca rusii erau foarte interesati sa preia datoria ). Asa cum precizeaza si Albrecht Ritschl ( specialist in istoria ecnomiei) in interviul din Der Spiegel, buba nu este Grecia ci Germania. Germania isi datoreaza prosperitatea faptului ca nu a platit despagubiri de razboi natiunilor pe care le-a nenorocit.
Grecii sunt foarte constienti de articolele antagonice din massmedia germana. Daca starea natiunii [grecesti] se va schimba, vechile cererei pentru plati reparatorii se vor face auzite din nou si nu numai din Grecia, dar si din partea celorlalte tari europene. Si daca Germania va trebui vreodata sa onoreze [aceste] datorii. Comparativ cu aceasta situatie, putem fi recunoscatori ca Greciei i se permite sa se reorganizeze pe banii nostri. Daca am urma opinia publica in aceasta problema, cu toata propaganda sa ieftina si cu [faptul ca cetatenii nu vor sa plateasca], atunci ne vom trezi in nou cu cererile de plata pentru compensarea distrugerilor de razboi.
- Grecia era un dezastru la sfarsitul celui de-al doilea razboi mondial. Jenny mentioneaza ca Grecia a pierdut 13% din populatie. Ca sa avem o idee ce inseamna acest procent: daca Romania ar fi pierdut la fel ca Grecia in al doilea razboi mondial, numarul de victime omenesti in Romania ar fi trebuit sa fie de cca 2.470.000. La noi a fost de cca 800.000. ( enorm oricum; ideea este sa intelegem diferentele).
- Germania, desi ar fi trebuit sa plateasca desbagubiri Greciei … a fost iertata o perioada. Suma mentionata de Jenny este de 1.5 trilioane de euro. OK. Este clar ca Germania nu are de gand sa plateasca; partea proasta este ca politicienii greci nici nu au deschis procedurile prin care sa ceara banii Greciei.
- apare o idee noua, asa ca Grecia este “bagata” in UE si eurozone ( desi nu avea cum sa indeplineasca conditiile, falsificarea datelor fiind facuta chiar cu ajutorul faimlsilor Goldman Sacks. Se pare ca tratatele aferente obliga tarile membre sa-si suspende cererile de recuperare a despagubirilor de tipul celor rezultate in din perioada celui de-al doilea razboi mondial. OK. Deci Germania scapa din nou.
- daca Grecia iese din sistemul UE, iese de sub restrictiile de a nu cere despagubirile de razboi. Deci Greciei ii va fi bine sa iasa. Cine pierde/ Germania.
Si in spatele Germaniei pierd bancile si proprietarii acelor 167 (sau cate sunt) de companii ce se joaca de-a stapanii lumii pe viata si banii oamenilor.
Mai jos articolul asa cum este el pe blogul Golem XIV.
SURSA ARTICOLULUI: http://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/11/guest-post-jenny-gkiougki-anger-and-injustice-in-greece/
This piece was sent to me, as it was sent to others, by Jenny Gkiougki, who has been deeply involved in the Greek protests and politics of resistance. I have not edited her piece at all, only the title is mine.
I have enever met Jenny but have corresponded with her. To the best of my knowledge Jenny is not a racist nor bigot nor Xenophobe. She is a linguist and ‘ordinary’ in the way most of us would see ourselves as ordinary.
Like all of us she asks herself ‘Why?’ Why is this happening to my country, to my countrymen and women and my children?
I offer this piece Jenny sent, not because I agree with all of it or feel comfortable with the undercurrent of ‘blame the German people’. I have consistently argued that we must NOT allow ourselves to fall in to the easy trap of nation blaming nation, people blaming people. Not only because it is wrong and dangerous but because it allows the real villains, our leaders and their friends in the financial class, to fade from the scene and deflect blame.
I offer this to you because it is an insight into what some, perhaps many are thinking in Greece. It gives a measure and a voice to the freight of anger and dispair. There have been injustices and history does matter. We should seek to make amends for those injustices commited in our name, and certainly not allow them to be perpetuated or used to enforce further injustices. But we must not allow ourselves to become trapped by history nor mesmerized by the injustices of the past. If we cannot hold together now, as people, we will find ourselves being turned against each other. It happened in Yugoslavia. It can happen to us. WE MUST NOT LET IT.
The dangers are growing. And the solutions that those in power are already trying to enforce will be far more dangerous.
What follows is Jenny’s.
The German reparations and Greece’s entry into the Euro
… or else ‘the missing pieces of the puzzle were lying under the carpet’
Speaking with a friend in Washington today I was able to fill in the missing pieces and see the big picture. Through my conversation with Heleni Yioka, a Greek American, a scientist, one of the Greek minds that found fertile soil away from their land, like so many others, I was able to answer many questions that had been bugging me for a long time, like the hidden meaning behind the statement made by Ms. Psarouda-Benaki who was the Chairperson of the Greek Parliament at the time, during the inauguration of Mr. Papoulias, as President of the Hellenic Republic in 2005 –a statement that was completely ignored by the media, or the incredible story of Greece’s accession to the Eurozone, with the falsification of financial data and all that that entailed –what was the reason for this to happen.But, let us take it from the start.
The story begins with the end of the WWII, which found Germany to be the biggest loser and Greece as one of the most affected ones. Altogether during the war, but particularly through the German occupation, Greece lost 13% of its population as a direct result of Nazi atrocities, where thousands were massacred, whole villages wiped out within minutes as retaliation for the actions of the Greek guerrilla resistance. But countless people also perished, especially in cities, due to hunger and hardships they suffered because of the unbearable ‘occupation loan’ which forced all of Greece’s resources into the German stomachs … leaving the Greeks actually dying by the hundreds on a daily basis.
The end of the war brought about the issue of war crimes committed by the occupational forces and of course it opened up the chapter of reparations to those affected. A long and tragic story this is, of the Greek claims. And look how this play with words works… these reparations through the treaties of Paris in ’40, London in ’53, and Moscow in ’90 are not contestable, but due, and payable immediately!
In simple words what this means is that we do not need to do something to claim them, no need to prove anything, we simply have to demand that they get paid!
Why has this not happened so far you ask? Alas, I shall deny you the flagrantly conspicuous and regrettable answer –as one is capable of drawing one’s own conclusions.
The Treaty of London gave Germany a second chance as although it was made clear that affected countries can put forward claims against it, nevertheless as it too was coming out of the war injured and dismembered, and in need to reconstruct itself, it was granted some leeway until it would become a unified entity once again.
… Fast forward to 1989, the fall of the Berlin Wall and the reunification of Germany. Follows the Treaty of Moscow in 1990 where the newly-reunited Germany, asks for some more time the appropriation called “2 + 4” ie ’90, ’91 plus four we now arrive at 1995! From then on the Greek governments(s) had every right to demand payment of reparations in full. To give you an idea of what is at stake here, let me point out that according to the highly pessimistic scenarios we are talking of several hundred billion euros, while according to the optimistic estimates –supported by many prominent connoisseurs on the subject, the amount is near 1,5 TRILLION euros -yes you read it right. There are many, even within Germany supporting the view that Germany’s postwar economic development would not have happened had they paid these reparations in full upon the end of the war.
And now let us come to another very legitimate question; why was it so important for the small Balkan- in size and standards, Greek economy, accounting for only 2% of the EU to enter the currency of the strong and mighty at its launch. Also bear in mind we are a country where those that collaborated with the enemy suffered no prosecution, and that our ‘king’ that got reinstated after the war was of Germanic origin….
The Simitis government that took over in 1995, not only made no real attempt to claim reparations but it committed an even worse crime –that of locking the currency rate with the Euro. Hasn’t anyone wondered how ever did we end up with that famous 347.5 drachmas to a euro? The strong currency of the era and the area was the German Mark and the exchange rate with this was set at about 172 drachmas, yet the Drachma-Euro lock was at double that amount which automatically brought a devaluation of our economy by about 50% -not to mention the infamous, by now, case of cooking up the data with the help of Goldman Sacks to be able to enter the Euro…
To what did we owe such persistence? Before all of this took place, in the Schengen Treaty paving the way for monetary union it was stated that member states brought into the common currency would have to give up their monetary sovereignty by assigning part of its powers to the central European headquarters, and Article 50 of the Numismatic Union Treaty states that all Member States shall, in good faith, waive any claims they may have against other Member States within the Eurozone. … Perhaps now the picture is beginning to clear up?
Another thing specified in the Agreement for monetary union is that although no Member State can be expelled from the Eurozone, all members reserve the right to withdraw from it. In this eventuality, its monetary sovereignty gets restored, but the ECB should also return to the said country all that it had given away to enter –things like gold, securities, etc. It does not stop here however! Now, hold on now, the Member State leaving the Eurozone has the right to seek liability compensation for damages incurred during its stay in the monetary union! You understand what this means?? We are not the ones that will be harmed by our departure from the Euro-ITIS THEM THAT WILL BE DESTROYED!!
And here, of course, enter the ‘HOLLIER-THAN-THOU’ yet loan-laden Greek MEDIA (Mass Entertainment Deception Incorporated Alliance), who in obedience to their masters have for so long been using abysmal intimidation tactics scaring the people with horror scenarios of our return to the drachma -as if before the Euro there was no life, as if there was no Greece or economic activity or that all countries outside the Euro zone or the dollar are doomed to nothingness.
As if all the above were not enough -and perhaps as proof that our political system in its entirety is “somewhat compromised” comes the date of June 26, 2011. For most of us this was just another ordinary day in the calendar of insanity we are living in lately. But it was a very important day for the EU … So, according to the Lisbon Treaty, somewhere in the fine print you’ll find the reference, on that day all the member states that signed it ceded part of their sovereignty to the central power of Brussels -hence the Psarouda-Benaki statement during the inauguration of Mr. Papoulias in 2005 that “he is assuming the presidency at difficult times, times whereby we will be forced to accept reduced borders and national sovereignty for the overall benefit of the many” –a statement which both the media and the politicians gave a sufficient burial to!
Which brings us to the celebrated Kallikrates scheme -one of Mind-the-GAP-Papandreou’s first movements as soon as he seized power. With Kallikrates the country is divided into 13 smaller groups, like the city-states of former times. But this also means that the concept of a nation-state as a united, independent entity is now being destroyed.Even if we were to claim the German reparations we would no longer be able to do so as a nation-state against another nation-state as we now are a federation of cantons!
The only way that can once again become a nation-state, regain our national sovereignty and immunity and to demand the German reparations is … to leave the Eurozone, but do it on our own terms! If we let our rulers, under the new, unconstitutional, dictatorial government, led by a member of the Trilateral Commission, to guide us toward a ‘soft’ Euro then all these disaster-scenarios the media are feeding us will materialize, and they will surface as prophets!
It’s time to see the truth, to expose the great conspiracy and take the brave decision. To realize that:
GOING BACK TO OUR OWN CURRENCY
WOULD NOT SIGNIFY OUR DESTRUCTION
IT WOULD GUARANTEE OUR SALVATION!
FOARTE Interesant de vazut – tot in engleza:
Evident, ca incepem sa ne uitam cu alti ochi la datoria Germaniei catre Romania si de ce inca suntem tratati cu manusi



stai un pic … ce spui tu aici lasa loc de o idee: adica la intrarea in eurozone noi pierdem dreptul de a cere Germaniei sa ne platesca datoria? Asta e ca si cum as spune ca s-a facut Ue ca Germania nu numai sa nu-si plateasca datoriile, dar tot “FNI”ul global sa scoata bani pana la moartea bipezilor care nu se trezesc. brrrr …
Sabin, eu nu las loc la nici o idee
Daca astea-s regulile casei si cum pe guvernanti nu-i trage nimeni la raspundere, s-ar putea sa ne bage in casa cu pricina
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Iar cu datoria Germaniei fata de Romania oricum este interesanta povestea; romanii nu stiu de banii respectivi si nu-i strang cu usa pe pseudopoliticienii pe care-i avem ca sa recuperam banii. Asa ca politica Romaniei este “pres”in fata Germaniei.
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